Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Student Privacy
Please read the entire article that is linked here. Once you have read the article take a side (the students or the school district). Please argue why you think your side is correct. Use intelligent language and do not disparage others. One sentence even two will not get the job done. Feel free to intelligently and civiliy comment on others posts for extra points. If you choose to insult other comments you will lose points.
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i think that the school is completely out of line because if the post none of them where threats and none of them had anything to do with the school that was inappropriate. If the school saw something about a teacher than thats fine they should give her a detention. But once you invade privicy and go on her account and look at her personal messages and stuff than you cross the line. i think the school should be getting sewed for what they did. If its not in school and has nothing to do with school than its not the schools business.
ReplyDeletethe school is not allowed to search her face book. the school is violating the first and fourth amendments of the constitution. she has every right to keep those thing private from her school. the email searching is worse than the face book but still illegal on any level of government. the school should be sued and all the people who intimidated her should be either arrested or fired from there jobs and the cop shouldnt be able to be a cop anymore and the priniple shouldnt be able to teach or anything at any school. they knew very well that it was illegal.
ReplyDeleteR.S should not have been punished for what she did. The school employees violated her first amendment and fourth amendment rights. School grounds is not allowed to go through her facebook/e-mails. The school is not allowed to make her give her login and password. She never posted it at school so it doesn't violate any school rules. So what if she was talking about sex on facebook, thats her choice. She can talk about whatever she pleases to talk about. The school employees went through her profile, which violates the search and seizure because it was without her consent. The school has no choice or right to punish a child from what they put on their own, private social site. School should only worry about what is going on inside of the school. Not what students think about employees at the school.
ReplyDeleteDid she give her consent when she supplied her username and password? Or could that argument be nullified by the intimidation that took place?
DeleteI side with the girl. The school had no right to interrogate her get in trouble for things that were said on the internet, not even on school property. It is illegal for them to interrogate and go through a minors possesions, whether it be online or in person, without a parents consent. The girl had every right to be posting what she wanted on her facebook wall without getting in trouble unless it had to deal with drugs or something illegal. But talking about hating someone, sex, or asking who turned her in is no big deal and shouldn't have warranted her what it did. She wasn't hurting anyone. Feelings may have gotten hurt, sure, but that's it, nothing more. So the school had no right to do what they did and could possible face major charges solely on the fact that they interrogated a minor without consent and went through said minor's personal things.
ReplyDeleteThe school violated the girls rights. The post she put on her facebook about hating the janitor can not get her in trouble because that's freedom of speech and she didn't say it directly to the janitor. The school violated her first amendment rights and her fourth amendment rights regarding unreasonable search and seizure. The school should lose this case and they had no right to search through her mail or facebook. The only way I think the school should search it if its on school grounds or if it is the schools property.
ReplyDeleteI think that the school violated her 4th amendment right of unlawful searches and seizures. The school had no business interogating her like some kind of criminal. But this girl is pretty dumb for even giving the school her password, if i was her i would have not givin them any personal information, especially without my parents being there. And she didnt even make the posts at school, so the school should get out of her personal business, because they have no right to do so.
ReplyDeleteI side with the girl. The school was completely out of line. She posted those things on her own time, not while at school. The school systems should not be able to punish students for what they do and say on their time and in their personal lives. Sounds like the school in on a power trip. I hate when people abuse their authority.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the student in this case. In my opinion her privacy was violated by the school.Even though she was Even though the school states that "The students do not shed their First Amendment rights at the school house gate" they never notified her parents to explain why they needed to have her password. Violating her 1st and 4th amendment I believe she is in the right to sue. If they are persistantly looking over her facebook page, what about all the other middle school students. I highly doubt this young girl is the only one who talks about sex to other people on facebook let alone complaining about someone she doesn't like. Who hasn't? at least once. I do think she was not smart at all by giving up her password. Where was her backbone? Who knows...
ReplyDeleteI understand where the girl is coming from and i think the school was a little hard on her. It is also not clear how the school got the screenshot of her message. If someone had sent it to the school then her 4th amendment rights weren't violated because they didnt search her account and they also had a reason to after this incident. The comment also could fall under a mild form of cyperbullying. Because of that that the district had a right to deal with the situation and prevent it from happening again. The girl shouldve also been smarter about doing something like this again knowing they had access to it and because she had gotten in trouble for it before. In a way its kind of her own fault. I side with the district.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this comment, but i also think that if she put up on facebook those comments for all to see, she should be ready to accept the consequences of saying questionable things.
DeleteEven though I think it is a bit too far to sue the school and the situation as a whole is a bit rediculous, I have to agree with the girls side because it didnt happen on school property and she has the right to say and do anything she wants to say under the protection of the law. Maybe they could get her for what she said about the staff member in the school, but even then she has a right to her opinion and they can't dictate the way she thinks, or even acts, outside of school property.
ReplyDeleteI believe the girl was right to sue the school because they did disrupt her privacy without the right. I agree that her first and fourth amendment rights were violated by the school and its employees. The School district should take full responsibility for their actions, even though they deny everything. The student shouldn't be punished with a detention for her opinion on a hall monitor that she posted on facebook, especially outside school. An interrogation of her private matters is ridiculous and the school had no right to explore the student's personal matters.
ReplyDeleteI think that the girl has every right to sue the school. They invaded her privacy and tricked her into giving out her username and passwords. Also, the school violated her first amendment rights to freedom of speech. The posts were not made on school property or on school equipment; therefore, the school should not be able to punish her. The school should own up to their mistake and apologize ot the girl and her family. I understand that the girl should have been more careful with what she posts; however, she should not be held accountable due to the fact that she is a young girl who was emotionally upset.
ReplyDeleteIts easy to understand why the girl would want to sue the school. They have no right going through her private conversations at school when they were not posted during school. The school district should be punished for this and it should be a direct violation of the first amendment. They shouldnt be interagating her about one of their employees over somehting that she posted out of school.
ReplyDeleteI think this whole situation is rediculous, but i will have to agree with the school in this case. This is because the student put her stuff up on facebook and should know it can be seen by all. She gave away her rights when she put up comments on the internet that anyone could see. Though i do believe the student had the right to say whatever she wanted to say on facebook, she did put it up for all to see and should be willing to accept the consequences of doing that.
ReplyDeleteI side with R.S. The school cannot just look into her emails and such and "interrogate" her. She's a 12 year old girl posting stuff about school. There is nothing wrong with that her comments are not hurting anyone in any way and so she should not have even been punished in any way. the school was invading her privacy so I strongly agree with the suing of the school. I would have done the same thing. Schools are too nosey nowadays.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this comment. She shouldn't of been so interrogated at such a young age. The school was in the wrong. They shouldn't of had access to e-mails.
DeleteIn this case i side with the girl. R.S should not have been intimidated into giving up her login and password to the school, especially without her parents consent. I also believe that she should not have been punished for posting about the staff member or the second post, because she has freedom of speech. Lastly, i do not believe that she had done anything wrong and should be repaid in some way by the school.
ReplyDeleteR.S. has every right to sue her school, they clearly violate the first and fourth admendment. They had no right to go onto her facebook page and search for information they weren't even sure was there. This situation would be different if there was a report that R.S. was threatening someones life , or threating to take or harm her own, but she wasn't. The most important thing that R.S. is underage and the school did not get parent permission to investigate her facebook page. Yes, maybe what R.S. said wasn't right, but that should have brought to the attention to parents so they could further punish R.S. R.S. should continue to protest and fight the unfair and cruel punishment of her school.
ReplyDeletein my opinion the girl has the right to sue the school. The school shouldn`t be allowed to search her email and facebook account.It is her privacy. The school should apologize to the girl and the family, but even the girl should apologize to this person, because the post was not appropriate.
ReplyDeleteI take the side of the student, because her rights were abused. For the school officals to take control and scare the student into giving them here login and password to her facebook and e-mail was wrong. They didnt have a warrent or permission form her parents, so they had no right looking through her personal things.
ReplyDeleteI think that the little girl should be able to sue the school and the school is a bunch of idiots. They should first of all not be aloud for getting her in trouble for saying that she hates someone at school. It is her life and she is aloud to say what she wants as the first ammendment says. IF she was threatning people then that would be a different story but she only said that she hated someone. If our school got into our privacy like that everyone would be screwed and get in trouble. Then she was practically forced into giving her username in password by a police officer which is not fair at all. If I was the parent of this kid I would try to sue the school to so that people realize that just because the child goes to school there doesnt mean that he owns him. In relation to this our school does a lot of things that we could see and get upset about that is very similar to this.
ReplyDeleteI am on the girl's side. THe school had no business in interviening. She didn't write it on school property ex: desks walls etc. nor did she write it while at school. So the school has no permission to interveine.
ReplyDeleteI think that the 12 year old student's rights were completely ignored and disregarded. The school should not have the right ot even invade a students privacy, yet alone a minor. This is America the land of free, we have the right to privacy, freedom of speech and etc. I think that the student has full reason sue the school for this outrageous act of invasion of privacy and exploiting her private posts on facebook.
ReplyDeleteI think the student is right and a school should not be aloud to do that to a 6th grader. Her privacy was invaded and it was not right of the school to force her to give her username and password. They say that they didn't force her but bringing in a ploice officer makes it a little scary for a 6th grader. I hope that she wins and sues the school for a decent amount of money. She was put through a lot of embaressment because of this her 1st ammendment rights were taken from her.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this completely. Her first amendment rights were deffinitely violated and i also hope that she wins the case against the school.
DeleteI think that the school did not have the right to look at the girls personal accounts. They were out of line and should not have done what they did. The posts in question were not on “school property or using any school equipment or connections.” The actions by the school violated the girl’s first and fourth amendment rights. She never threatened anyone and she does have freedom of speech. The school district unfairly punished her for actions a lot teens do. Also, they did not have permission from her parents to view these postings.
ReplyDeleteI think that the student should not be allowed to attack another person on facebook. However, I do not feel that it is the school's responsibility to search through all of the student's personal files. The school can use whatever they can find without actually logging on to the girl's account. If she posts something that everyone can see, the school can use it against her. She needs to learn that it is not okay to write those comments on her facebook. The school only overstepped its boundaries when it forced the girl to disclose her personal login and password.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Alexis, the student shouldn't attack another student on the internet where everyone can see, and her parent should have been noted so she could take the situation her hands and punish R.S. accordingly.
DeleteI agree with both comments. The student shouldn't attack others on social networks, you don't have to be so outgoing about it. Social networking is public and you should think before you post anything. I understand that it's your choice and your private place to do things you can't do/say, but something is to personal to occur in public. And I also think her parent should punish or talk to R.S.
DeleteI totally think the school overstepped her rights and searched a totally irrelevant thing. They shouldn't have been able to punish her for posting something they didn't like it wasn't on school grounds or anything to do with the school's property. They shouldn't have been able to do anything because it was completely on her own time and her opinions it's not like she was threatening anyone it's just overdramatic of the school.
ReplyDeleteI believe R.S. is doing the right thing by suing her school. Her facebook page is part of her private life, it is just like them investigating her past coversations or looking through her phone records because there is a rumor that she was having inapropriate conversations with another person. The school clearly violates the first and fourth admentment, which is violating the constitution, which is violating what this entire country stands for. Also it is cruel how they got the username and password out of R.S. they interrogated her until they scared it out of her. They never got parent permission to further persue the issue of her facebook, and shouldn't have until talking to R.S's legal gaurdian. R.S is standing by the rights she was given the day she was born in the United States and is undoubtebly doing the right thing.
ReplyDeleteI think the girl has the right to sue the school because she was threatened and scared. Her civil rights were violated the school should not be able to do that if the girl did not want to give up her password and username then she shouldnt have too especially if the parents do not give consent. She also should not get into trouble for what she said its her life she should be able to say what she wants.
ReplyDeleteI think that the girl has every right to sue the school for that. That is absolutely rediculous. The school has no right to go through that girls social life. I could understand if it was threatening someone from school but it wasn't. The only thing that she said was that she hated someone. She wasn't threatening or talking about ways to get back at anyone. There is a time for parents to take over and a time and place when schools can but this was just out of hand. This should of been dealt with between the girl and her parents. The school staff should not of taken this into their own hands. It wasn't their place. I had a friend who actually said something about a teacher and this mother was pretending to be one of the students but really she was monitering the facebook profiles of others. The parent printed and highlighted the comment being made towards the teacher and handed it to the principal. My friend got an in school suspension. That is absolutely dumb. Again she wasn't threatening anyone so it should of been dealt with by her parents not by the school. They have no right. I would be furious and so would my parents. My parents would say it is there place to deal with something like that. If schools were constantly monitering kids lives outside of school I think a lot of us would be in the principals office. We all have opinions and bad days and that was not right for a school to get involved in a students personal business.
ReplyDeleteAll of this going on should not be happening. Like it said in the article they are violating her first and fifth amendment. That right there says that they should be getting into trouble. The school has no right to go onto someone elses facebook. Especially if that has nothing to do with the school. They should of let her parents take care of the problem.
ReplyDeleteI personally am in favor of the girl. She, i believe, had every right to say what she wants on facebook as long as it isnt life threatening. The school had no right trying to scare a little girl to death just to get her password for facebook. They also had no right to punish her for things they found, it wasnt on school property and it wasnt disrupting the educational process. There was no probable cause for search and seizure, and they had no warrent or permission from the mother to search and monitor what her child is doing. The girl should not have been let go.
ReplyDeleteOkay, lets try this for a third time........ I believe that this girl should not of gotten in trouble. This whole thing is violating her first and fourth ammendment rights of the constitution of this girls privacy. This comment on facebook was not made on school property, so in my opinion they had no right to be the ones to handle this case, just because this comment was made on facebook off of school property its none of their business. If someone had a problem with it, and had a problem with it, would be the parents, not the school.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the school should not be allowed to search through her profile. It is her own privay and no one should be able to look through it. In addition to that she is only 12 years old, which means she is most likely able to be scared of police officers who force her to give them the password. When you are young and have issues going on with the police no employer really wants you to work for them. I hope her mom brings the school to court because she got embarrassed by the whole school who thinks she is a bad girl now.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the girl has every right to sue the school. She is in 6th grade and only 12 years old. It is not okay in my eyes to take full control over this situation without even notifying a parent or guardian. The way this girl was treated at her school is not right. When she said on her facebook wall that she hated the hall monitor, I don't believe that should have been taken as a threat. when you hate someone, I feel that that is your own opinion. She wasn't threatening to harm that him/her or anyone in the school. Facebook and personal e-mail accounts should be kept out of the school's business. When people post things on facebook, it is their right to post what they want and speak their opinion. Seeing how the girl is so young as well also makes it not okay for the school to force her to give up her personal information. Who she e-mails and what she e-mails about, is NONE of the schools business. She shouldn't of had to give up her facebook password or e-mails information for anyone except for herself or her parents. The school should get in trouble for this action. Schools always tell us not to get ourselves so wrapped up in facebook and other social networking sites, however, they go through stalking facebook profiles?! It makes no sense. As long as she wasn't on facebook during school hours, then she shouldn't have been punished. She did nothing wrong and I hope that she is successful with suing her school. People just astound me...
ReplyDeleteThis is absolutely ridiculous. I would see her school. This is a girl in 6th grade. The school had no right to do this to her. They took her rights away for no reason. What she posted was not even bad. She did not threaten anyone in any way. Plus, she did it at her house with her own time. She didnt do it at the school or on school property. The school took her rights away. Also, it was not fair at all that they interigated a 12 year old girl, without her mom present. Thats just wrong. They should not have made her give them her password to her personal stuff. This just makes me angry. The school did all this to her without talking to her mom first. She missed school for nothing. She was forced to give up all her person information. The school had no right to take action.
ReplyDeleteThis school had no right to strong arm R.S. into giving them her password and username on fb. The comments she made may have been somewhat inappropriate but shes only in 6th grade i highly doubt that they were that bad. I feel like if she put something about a hall monitor being mean then thats her opinion whether she hated them or not she didnt threaten them. Im sure there was the hall monitors ego involved in getting her in trouble. Also if another parent didnt like that she was talking about sex thats to damn bad because thats not her kid. If she doesnt want her child seeing it then have them delet R.s.
ReplyDeleteThe school had no right to give out her private information. It's her personal choice to put what she wants on her OWN Facebook. If the parent didn't like the post, then delete her. I used to be a hall monitor and I though I was big and bad. The hall monitor probably took the job too seriously.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the school has no right to search through her Facebook/email or ask for her password. She didn't post all that stuff at school, so it's absolutely not school business. However, I also think that this little girl shouldn't post bad thing or talking bad about others on social networks. It's obviously that Facebook is public and everyone can see what she post, if she doesn't want to get in trouble for doing that, she shouldn't do it.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe the school was in the right in this case. It's her own private stuff and it's protected by the 1st amendment. Besides that, she's a little girl. I think the ADULT hall monitor should have swallowed her pride and not got into it with a 12 year old. The school should definitely get in trouble for this. The school employees who did this stuff should probably get fired.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the articles and some other peoples answers id have to say that i have to side with cory ide because the school had no right to interrogate her especially making her give up personal information just so they can go on to her online pages especially when there was so many people in one room yelling at you and making you feel uncomfortable. If there was a threat against someones life that is different this is just online hazzing from classmates and i feel that the school and police should not have trapped her and interrogated her with out the proper representation. So i feel she should sue and make right of what went wrong
ReplyDeleteCole makes a valid point. I feel like they took advantage of a young girl who was scared and didnt know her rights. They cornered her and i feel like their boundaries were defininitely over stepped. Also cole smells. Im sorry man but you really gotta do something about that
DeleteI would have to agree with the girl and her parents and sueing the school was justified. The girl shouldnot be punished by the school for anything she does or says outside of the school griunds. They are not her parents or the authorities. She has passwords for a reason and cannot be forced to give them up unless charges are pressed.
ReplyDeleteBrennan
I think the school doesnt have the right to take her password and search her facebook. I can understand that she got in trouble for saying, that she doesnt like somebody, but actually that is her personal opinion and shouldn't get in trouble for that. Also she shouldn't get her facebook account searched. The messages she has sent are private and her own personal opinion, expept if she'd say that she'd hit somebody, but she didn't even say that.
ReplyDeleteSo, I'm for the girl, if I would be in her position I would wanna sue my school district too!
I am on the girls side. She in my opinion has the right to say her opinion on her facebook. Yes, she can be told, watch what you are saying on facebook, and that it is disrespectful, but they dont have the right to go through her things like that. If she was threatening the women it would be a whole different story. If she was threatening her she could get into trouble for that, but she wasnt. She was just speaking her opinion. But overall, she is only 12, she should not have a facebook!
ReplyDeleteI don't really care about what the school said . The school is so wrong that they don't have the right to make a 12 years old six grade girl to a small room and force her to give up her facebook account . Punish her because of expressing her own feeling about things in school . This whole story is just talking about what the school do wrong , looking over a little girls private life . If I am the R.S.'s parents , I would sue the school .
ReplyDeleteWhat the school did was just wrong. I don't understand why they felt the need to go on a 12 year olds facebook and figure stuff out that is her personal things that do NOT include the school. Also it wasn't like she had threatened anyone she just clearly stated that she did not like them. They had no business pulling her into a room and telling her to log on that is not right. The school should honestly get sued for that, and if i were her parents i would do something about it also.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kaitlynn. I think what the school did was absolutely wrong. That is this little girl's personal information which shouldn't be disclosed to the school.
DeleteI think it is an s absolute disgrace to know that this school could be so invasive towards this little girl's personal property. Even though Facebook is a very public thing, it is still an invasion of this girl's policy. I feel as though she has every right to sue the school.
ReplyDeleteI think that the school deffinitely didn't have the right to intimidate the student to the point where she felt like she was forced to give them her login and password. I think it was wrong the first time, saying she hates someone because they're mean doesn't give anyone the right to do this. Saying that wasn't even a threat so it didn't even matter, it was only an opinion. Once the second and third time came around when they made her feel forced to give up her login and password once again it because even more rediculous for the school to look over her private conversations, which the school had nothing to do with. The school shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, and they made it a much bigger deal than it should've been. I believe that she does have the right to sue the school.
ReplyDelete-Jeff Horst